Re: [VPIM] Re: draft-ema-vpim-pndn-00.txt


ned.freed@innosoft.com
Mon, 24 Jan 2000 09:50:43 -0800 (PST)


> Either a system "takes responsibility" for delivery and notification, or it
> does not.

> You may treat personal email in a cavalier manner, but don't force its
> failings onto FAX carriage.

Mark, I don't think anyone here is treating personal email in a cavalier
manner. I must say I also find it borderline offensive for you to imply that
email has failing but existing FAX does not. The fact of the matter
is that both services have their issues -- failings if you will -- that
the new service we're building needs to address.

This is why there's significant technical justification for a partial delivery
notification. Like it or not, the range of devices and the range of formats
people are going to use is such that partial delivery is going to be
inevitable. In particular, it is simply not possible to constrain this service
to a single set of universally acceptable formats. This has been tried in both
the email and FAX worlds and has been a failure in both.

The question to my mind is that given the inevitability of partial delivery
occurring is a mechanism for making it visible to users useful. My previous
message explained my position on this issue.

> And while I personally feel that there are
> still many dozens of bandaids needed to make email conform to some
> minimal standard of performance, I would rather see this model be
> fixed, rather than further compromised by relaxing the definition of
> "delivered". Just my $0.0166 / mark

This sort of comment is entirely nonconstructive. Please desist.

                                Ned



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